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So, Dan, which is it?

I got sent a letter from DC comics when I, as part of team girl-wonder.org, sent a postcard asking if we'd be seeing a memorial for Stephanie Brown in the Batcave anytime soon.





So this means one of two things:

1) Stephanie Brown faked her death and we'll be seeing her back in the DCU.

or

2) Dan DiDio (and senior DC editorial) are a bunch of double standard lovin' sexist mofos.

So, Dan (and DC), which is it?

Because this issue? It is NOT going away.

ETA: Why this matters to a lot of people

So, why are we all up in arms about a fictional character? Because in many ways the story of Stephanie Brown illustrates the ways in which girls/women are marginalized both in fiction and in real life.

Because it's so Incredibly. Glaring. when she has no permanent memorial of any kind (but Jason Todd -- the boy who returned from the dead -- still has his prominent, repeatedly-featured-in-current-stories shrine); when her tragic and brutal death has been barely acknowledged by her comrades in arms, mentors, and friends; when her former boyfriend Tim Drake spends more time mourning the death of Superboy -- and tries repeatedly to clone him back into existance -- than he ever spent mourning her death.

Because having somebody else possibly pick up the mantle of the Spoiler is still not enough.

Because there has not yet been a single, logical explanation for why her mentor (Batman) held her to a different standard than the boy Robins and why he has neither mourned nor memorialized her -- despite his actions playing a huge role in the chain of events leading to her death.

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coppervale
Oct. 24th, 2006 01:48 am (UTC)
Cool - you got a letter from the Martian Manhunter's wife...
kadymae
Oct. 24th, 2006 01:50 am (UTC)
If only ... heh.

hawkward
Oct. 24th, 2006 02:15 pm (UTC)
Actually, she got a letter from artist J.G. Jones' wife. ;)
coppervale
Oct. 24th, 2006 06:17 pm (UTC)
Yep. I heard DiDio keeps her locked in his office as a completion bond for the 52 covers.

;)
bossymarmalade
Oct. 24th, 2006 02:04 am (UTC)
Wow. So the choice comes down to hackneyed writing or sexist piggery? Talk about a sucky pair of options.
dewline
Oct. 24th, 2006 02:16 am (UTC)
Kinda like the whole argument over Oracle and the Wheelchair in the DCU as it stands: damned if they do and...
kadymae
Oct. 24th, 2006 02:40 am (UTC)
Wow. So the choice comes down to hackneyed writing or sexist piggery? Talk about a sucky pair of options.

What other ones do you see, because for me, this issue does. not. have grey.

We have the sacred memorial to Jason ... who's alive again and gone on quite the kill spree... and still has his memorial, and a few in-passing mentions of Steph who died in a far more brutal manner while attempting to right a wrong, and a wrong that was comitted out of a misunderstanding and an attempt at redemption. Jason died while ... disobeying Batman for his own (selfish) reasons.

Why is there one rule for the Boy Robins and another for the Girl Robins?

Inquiring minds want to know.
kadymae
Oct. 24th, 2006 02:49 am (UTC)
Also, so far, every "explanation" I've heard from DC writers at panels, or seen attributed to DC Editorial is "Steph doesn't deserve a memorial because it's her own fault she died."

As. IF.

Because, um, hello? Using the same kind of logic whose fault is it that Jason Todd died? Why, Jason Todd's.







bossymarmalade
Oct. 24th, 2006 02:50 am (UTC)
Oh, I'm not disagreeing! I just mean that it sucks that *these* are the viable possibilities, rather than the Powers that Be actually goddamn acknowledging that Steph deserves a memorial as well. I should have elaborated, heh.

Frankly, as horrifying as I found Jason's death, I think Steph was a far more honourable and competent Robin. And let's not even bring up Leslie Thompkins' decision to let the girl *die*; there's so much blame placed on Steph, as though she caused her own death by unforgivably GOING BEHIND BATMAN'S BACK. Whereas Jason was, I dunno -- a misunderstood little woobie who was (understandably) searching for mama? Ugh.

In the end, out of the two choices you presented I'd prefer if they brought Steph back, of course. It doesn't make for very good writing, but the way they wrote her in War Games was pretty bad to begin with.
dewline
Oct. 24th, 2006 02:29 pm (UTC)
I don't even want to go there re: Leslie, as I respectfully disagree with what was done with her.
dedagda
Oct. 24th, 2006 02:58 am (UTC)
I totally wrote about Manhunter and got old skool letter head. You are so cool.

Stephanie Brown should not have died. She should not have been tortured and died. She should not have died by her doctors inaction.
(Anonymous)
Oct. 24th, 2006 03:29 am (UTC)
Rant! Rant! Rant~! ;)
kadymae
Oct. 24th, 2006 05:07 am (UTC)
Do you need a rant, Rebecca?

karenhealey
Oct. 24th, 2006 07:47 am (UTC)
OH HELLS NO THEY DID NOT.

*grabs stationary*
rubynye
Oct. 24th, 2006 12:49 pm (UTC)
Well said.

*starts composing letter for Round Two*
skalja
Oct. 24th, 2006 03:23 pm (UTC)
Looks like it's time to keep prodding some more. And prodding...

Out of curiosity, how long did you have to wait to get your reply? I sent mine off in August and haven't gotten anything yet (probably because I live overseas).
kadymae
Oct. 24th, 2006 03:40 pm (UTC)
IIRC, I sent my letter back in August.
skalja
Oct. 24th, 2006 05:58 pm (UTC)
Thanks! Hmm. Perhaps mine is languishing somewhere on a boat across the Atlantic.
weaverandom
Oct. 27th, 2006 02:49 am (UTC)
I got my first reply early this week - can't be sure exactly when, as I didn't get home to pick up mail between Saturday and Thursday night. But it was dated 17th, and even if it arrived Wednesday 25th, that's still not so long. (I live in Australia.)

I suspect yours is more languishing in someone's office. Lazy rats. :o
skalja
Oct. 27th, 2006 08:54 am (UTC)
OH, I just realized why. I sent a postcard with no return address. I R DUM. Man, what a spaz.

Anyway, I'll write another one happily enough, and that one will be a real letter.
brown_betty
Oct. 25th, 2006 06:38 pm (UTC)
Well, this letter has been a force for good. The condescending, "No, please stop annoying us," tone has finally made me do what I should have done a year ago and mail them my letter. They think we're stupidly annoying? They have not yet begun to see how stupid and annoying I can be.
digital_eraser
Oct. 25th, 2006 11:16 pm (UTC)
Katherine Keller, Jann Jones, Dan Didio...am I peaking into a pocket comic universe...? ;-)
scarab_dynasty
Dec. 1st, 2006 08:32 am (UTC)
It's annoying, yes. It'd be so freaking EASY to do. Seriously, but a little bit of art, maybe a page worth in a comic book.

DC just pushed a lot of people over, I think. Screw those guys, I'm goin' to marvel.
thatfangirl
Jan. 30th, 2007 10:41 pm (UTC)
Hi. I wanted to let you know that this post inspired me to write to DC too. It just took me a while. Now I look forward to getting this exact letter. :)
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